Re: [lojban-beginners] Tanru-internal connectives, place structure, non-sense

[iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de>]

la selpa'i ku cusku di'e
>I always treated it like this: When one predicate has more places than
>the other, the {je} connection only affects those places that "overlap".
>In this example, blanu1 and zdani1 are connected, but zdani2 is not,
>because there is no blanu2. Without this, the example would indeed be
>questionable, but tanru internal connectives would then be even more
>useless, so I don't recommend this interpretation.

I understand. You thus save {ti blanu je zdani} from being useless non-
sense. (Even then, {ti blanu je zdani} instead of then-equivalent {ti
blanu gi'e zdani} seems like bad style to me. I think it is a bit of a
pity that it is a CLL example sentence.)

I suppose you also accept {blanu je zdani ti}, by the same reasoning?

>{zi'o} might be debatable, but {no da} is out of the question. There
>cannot be a hidden negation in a {zo'e}.

Indeed.

>Also, I think it's important to make a difference between connected
>seltau units, and connected tertau units. This thread is only about the
>latter. The expansion for connected seltau units is deliberately vague,
>and usually gets expanded into two seperate tanru. But this is probably
>for another thread.

Yes, I decided not to propose the seltau perspective because I find it
easier to explain the issue from the tertau perspective.

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