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On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de
<mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote:
Or similarly, {ma poi klesi lo cidja}, which is what I would usually
say.
I always have doubts about that use of "poi" because it involves a kind
of metalinguistic restriction rather than an ordinary restrictive
clause. It restricts the set of possible answers, but the
straightforward application of the poi and ma rules should be that "ma"
is asking for a sumti which, when restricted by the poi-clause, fits the
argument place. So I would prefer "ma noi" here. Similarly with
demonstratives "ti poi", etc. "
With {ti poi} I would agree that it's off, but if we were to rewrite {do djica tu'a ma poi klesi lo cidja} as {ma klesi lo cidja gi'e poi'i do djica tu'a ke'a} ("What is a kind of food and is such that you want [to eat] it?"), it seems to have the right semantics.
Is {ma} not much closer to {da} than it is to something like {ti}? The weird (but often useful) thing about {ma} is that it always has highest scope, so it should be able to parallel {da} (as in {su'o da poi broda cu brode} -> {su'o da broda gi'e brode}.
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