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Re: [lojban-beginners] A few more sentences
la'o me. Erik Natanael Gustafsson .me cusku di'e
coi .i ji'a ki'e
I have now managed to decipher all of your suggestions, that of course
seem much more sensible. I am not completely sure what the nei at the
end of selpa'i's sentence does though:
"> Let us share our knowledge.
.e'e mi'o simxu lo ka [ce'u] jungau [ce'u] fi lo se djuno be lo nei"
Why would I need to repeat the bridi there?
{lo nei} repeats the x1 of the current bridi. {nei} is the current bridi
(though it's grammatically a selbri), and {lo} always takes the x1 of a
selbri. In this case it is the x1 of {jungau}, which lets me refer back
to the first {ce'u}. I can't say {ce'u} again, because that would add a
third (unrelated) {ce'u} to the sentence (I'm also avoiding subscripting
{ce'u}).
There is a very verbose way to avoid {nei}:
simxu lo ka ce'u goi ko'a ce'u goi ko'e zo'u ko'a jungau ko'e lo se
djuno be ko'a
And an experimental equivalent of this, using {ce'ai}:
simxu lo ka ko'a ko'e ce'ai ko'a jungau ko'e lo se djuno be ko'a
which in my opinion is still way too long too be practical.
That's why I think a new brivla would be good.
The last sentence is obviously the hardest one, because it is so vague
and metaphorical. But I think what I mean is that each subject can be
completely themselves at this place, that no aspect of them needs to
change. I had a little trouble with selpa'i's second version of this
(what selbri does the "fa"s refer to and how does the indirect question
work?), but I think maybe it is getting at this?
".i go'i fa lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zifre lo ka ckaji ma kau kei fa mi
.e do .e mi'o"
It could be translated back into English as:
"this place, where me, you and we are free to have whatever properties
that we do"
The first {fa} is {go'i}'s x1, which is the previous sentence's x1.
The second {fa} points to {zifre}.
mi'e la selpa'i mu'o
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