Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Trying my first translation ... a few questions.

Let me amplify that selpa'i was correct in picking up two points I missed. lo gercmo is a barker, not a bark. The bark itself would be gerselcmo or gercmosna. And he is correct about needing a gi'e (or .i je bo) to break up the ungrammatical double sentence.

--gejyspa

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:46 PM, la .xabltos. <hobbletoe@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you both so much. I really appreciate the feed back, and I will definitely think this all over.

On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-4, la .xabltos. wrote:
So, I have been studying for a few months now. Most of that time, I read through most of the Wave lessons, and the crash course, though mostly through "Lojban for Beginners". Recently, I started to go through some of the "early reader" texts that I could find, as I think that that will help me learn the basic grammar better as it won't be as complex.

So now I am trying to translate an "early reader" book to Lojban. I have noticed that it really requires you to understand and think about the grammar of the sentence more than I would normally do. I am hoping that this is a learned thing, and that it will be come easier as time passes, as I think it was tripping me up initially.

So, the name of the book is "The Puppy Who Lost his Bark". Initially, I thought that I needed to use "lost" as my selbri, and build the rest of the sentence around that. What I got was

lo cityge'u ma cu cirko le ri gercmo

Which I really knew was not right. "ma" is completely out of place and doesn't fit into the sentence structure. Then it dawned on me that I was dealing with a relative clause, and I think I got it right the second time around.

lo cityge'u poi ma kau cirko le ke'a gercmo

I then move on into the book. "Little Puppy likes to play, but loses toys every day."

.i lo cmalu cityge'u goi ko'a cu nelci le nu kelci ku ku'i ri cirko le zilkei ti'u le ro djedi

My question here (outside of hoping that I got it right), is "zilkei". I understand it as a lujvo (zi'o kelci). What I don't understand is why that would be chosen over something like selkei (se kelci). Can anyone explain this choice?

I've gone a bit farther, but don't want to run into any copyright blah, blah, blah, so I'll stop here.

Any notes, comments, corrections would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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