Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help with Lojbanising English?

On the other hand, the last phoneme should be "z", not "s". I don't know anyone who pronounces Samways to rhyme with "base" rather than "bays"

--gejyspa

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Kirbytroid <kirbytroid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

OK then, thanks for clearing that up.
And for reminding me that the "a" sound is different from "hat", or
"Sam",
but I suppose that that's the price of using foreign words in Lojban.

On Jul 13, 1:53 am, Luke Bergen <lukeaber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And of course if you were trying to make the first "a" sound like the "a" in
> "hat" then you're out of luck. That and the "i" of "kick" have no lojban
> letter/diphthong.
>
> Otherwise yeah, I'd go with samueis
> On Jul 12, 2011 8:18 PM, "David Gowers (kampu)" <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Kirbytroid <kirbytr...@yahoo.co.uk>

> wrote:
>
> >> coi
>
> >> I'm new to Lojban, and am currently working through some of the online
> >> lessons. It looks really interesting, and I hope to continue learning
> >> it.
>
> >> I just wanted to know how you would write "Samways" in Lojban?
> >> I thought that it would be "samueis", but I'd like to have it
> >> clarified :D.
>
> >> English is not phonetically unambiguous, so some people might say
> > samueis (IMO this is what you would get if you pronounced the name with
> > completely correct and clear English enunciation). People might say
> sam,ueis
> > or samuais or sam,uias , according to what kind of English accent they
> have.
> > That's what you have to think about -- the kind of pronunciation you are
> > expecting. Lojban is unambiguous about what a particular string of
> > characters sounds like, but you still have to decide what sound you are
> > intending first :)
>
> > (the comma isn't phonetically distinct, it just represents whether there
> is
> > a short pause or not. sam,ueis == samueis with different pausation.)
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