[lojban-beginners] Re: Help with Lojbanising English?

[Jed <three65daysaweek@yahoo.com>]

I've never actually seen this done among borrowed words in any
language, but it might be more phonetically appropriate to say
"seamueiz" instead of "samueiz". It's the difference between "pan" as
an English word to refer to a cooking tool and "pan" as a Spanish/
Japanese/Portugese word to refer to bread. Basically, "ea" might more
closely resemble the first "a" in "Samways."

On Jul 20, 9:25 am, Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the other hand, the last phoneme should be "z", not "s".  I don't know
> anyone who pronounces Samways to rhyme with "base" rather than "bays"
>                   --gejyspa
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Kirbytroid <kirbytr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > OK then, thanks for clearing that up.
> > And for reminding me that the "a" sound is different from "hat", or
> > "Sam",
> > but I suppose that that's the price of using foreign words in Lojban.
>
> > On Jul 13, 1:53 am, Luke Bergen <lukeaber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > And of course if you were trying to make the first "a" sound like the "a"
> > in
> > > "hat" then you're out of luck.  That and the "i" of "kick" have no lojban
> > > letter/diphthong.
>
> > > Otherwise yeah, I'd go with samueis
> > > On Jul 12, 2011 8:18 PM, "David Gowers (kampu)" <00a...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Kirbytroid <kirbytr...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >  > wrote:
>
> > > >> coi
>
> > > >> I'm new to Lojban, and am currently working through some of the online
> > > >> lessons. It looks really interesting, and I hope to continue learning
> > > >> it.
>
> > > >> I just wanted to know how you would write "Samways" in Lojban?
> > > >> I thought that it would be "samueis", but I'd like to have it
> > > >> clarified :D.
>
> > > >> English is not phonetically unambiguous, so some people might say
> > > > samueis (IMO this is what you would get if you pronounced the name with
> > > > completely correct and clear English enunciation). People might say
> > > sam,ueis
> > > > or samuais or sam,uias , according to what kind of English accent they
> > > have.
> > > > That's what you have to think about -- the kind of pronunciation you
> > are
> > > > expecting. Lojban is unambiguous about what a particular string of
> > > > characters sounds like, but you still have to decide what sound you are
> > > > intending first :)
>
> > > > (the comma isn't phonetically distinct, it just represents whether
> > there
> > > is
> > > > a short pause or not. sam,ueis == samueis with different pausation.)
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