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Re: Re: Re: [lojban-beginners] What is the Lojban word for......



 

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:32 AM, <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess I was put off by {xeljigve'u}.

{ko'a jigve'u ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u}

would be

{ko'a vecnu ko'e ko'i poi jinga ko'e ko'u ku'o ko'o}

  Yes. I'm sorry. In my original, when I wrote "j5" I MEANT "j3".
 
 
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(Sorry I'm not sur about the verb "to auction" in English, does it mean "sell in an auction"?)
 
 
     Well, yes and no. To "auction off" refers to the process, not the result.  "To sell at auction to X" would describe the result better.
           --gejyspa
 


On , Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>   But again, the x1 of jivna is only a competitor (one of the participants of the auction, in this case).  That's why the x1 of jinga is better for the winner. (And mine is aligned with vecnu)
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> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:44 AM, rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I would prefer {jvive'u} with
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> {ko'a jvive'u ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u}
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> {ko'a vecnu ko'e ko'i poi jivna ko'u ku'o ko'o}
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> In English:
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> "x1=v1 sells-on-auction x2=v2 to x3=v3=j1 for price x4=v4 with-other-competors x5=j2"
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> so "the auction" would be {lo nu jvive'u} "the winner" is {lo te jvive'u}
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> The reason for my preference is that an auction is a special form of sale, so having it aligned with {vecnu} would make it easier to remember.
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> P.S. BTW, I found that try to write the lojban gloss greatly helps when trying to create lujvo!
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> On , Michael Turniansky mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   I like it very much.  However, your definition is slightly off.  Since you want to denote the WINNER of the competition in your definition, I would go with  jinga instead.  (jigve'u=
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> > v1 auctions v2=j2 to v3=j1 for cost v4 at auction j4 (over competitors j5, if you must)), making the actual auction itself xeljigve'u)
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> >             --gejyspa
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> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Ross Ogilvie oges007@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I don't have much experience coining words, but I thought I'd have a go.
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> > What about something based on {vecnu} = sells and {jivna} = competes ?
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> > jvive'u => v1 auctions v2=j4 to v3=j1 for cost v4
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> > and then to translate "I attended the auction of the house" it would be { mi zvati lonu jvive'u lo zdani }. What do people think?
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> > Also, is your name Sam Spade or Greg? uinai
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> > mu'o mi'e ros
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> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Sam Spade samspade10@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > auction ?
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> > (as in, where people bid cash for an item)
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> > I couldn't find it in any of the dictionaries or on google.
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> > I've left the thread title open for future use :-)
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> > Thanks,
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> > Greg
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