Re: [lojban-beginners] ko curmi le nu mi ninpengau do mi

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Saturday 04 September 2010 14:54:45 Krzysztof Sobolewski wrote:
> zo'o ko xamgu lo cnino jbopre
>
> (Is there a better word that I could use instead of "xamgu" here?)
>
> But first things first...
>
> mi'e la kcyctof. sobolefskis. no'u la iezux.
>
> I've been learning lojban quietly for some time now, but I finally realized
> that learning a language without anyone to speak to is, well, silly ;)
> Especially that I, just like every newbie, have some questions and I need
> someone to answer them ;) So let me start with this one:
>
> What does actually "cilre" mean?
>
> The official definition is:
> x1 learns x2 (du'u) about subject x3 from source x4 (obj./event) by method
> x5 (event/process)
>
> But this looks very unlike "learn" as it is understood in my language (one
> of the Slavic family ;) ) where you can learn something (or be learning
> something) and that's it. The definition above seems to be "polluted" by
> the English meaning of "learn", according to which you can say e.g. "I
> learned today that the road is closed". I ask this mainly because this
> makes me very uneasy when I say:
>
> mi cilre fi la lojban.
>
> Is it OK, or should I rather say:
>
> mi tadni la lojban.
>
> Or am I too picky? ;)

Both are OK, as is "mi ctuca mi fo la lojban.", like Russian "uchitsya". 
Both "uc" in "ctuca" and "ci" in "cilre" are from the Russian word.

Pierre

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