[lojban-beginners] Re: le darlu

[Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>]

la iuvál cusku di'e

> 1) "Good morning"
> I didn't really know how to tackle this. The {a'o nu xamgu cerni} I've used 
> still doesn't seem right to me. Doesn't it in fact say "[I am hopeful], 
> something is an event of something being a good morning", which asserts 
> that an event of good morning occured, occurs, or will occur, instead of 
> wishing for it? 

In my opinion, it is a misconception that a'o plus something is an 
assertion plus a feeling of hope. It is rather the expression
of a hope. The {nu xamgu cerni} is hoped for, not asserted.

>Another option I thought of is using {a'o le xamgu cerni} 
> or {a'o lenu xamgu cerni},
> but that raises two quostions: Firstly, is this grammatical at all, though 
> it contains
> no selbri? And secondly, does it make sense to use {le} for a morning whose 
> existence
> is not asserted, only imagined?

It is grammatical, but I don't think it makes much sense here.
It can serve as the answer to a question, for example.  
 
> 2) {mi djica lenu mi darlu}. The {le} does not seem right for the same 
> reason I've mentioned earlier - that the event of arguing does not (yet) 
> exist. 

I agree.

> Using {lo} seems even worse in that respect (though the
> English uses "a"). {le'e} seems appealing, since it refers to imaginary 
> things, but the man does not say that he wishes the argument to be like 
> other arguments he had - more probably having the best argument he had ever 
> had would be at least somewhat satisfactory.

I would have used {lo'e} until recently. Now I would use {lo}, but with
a more general sense than {su'o lo}. See 
http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/XS%20gadri%20proposal
and discussion thereof if you are _really_ interested. Also there is lots 
of discussion in the jboske@yahoogroups.com list.
 
> 3) {le rinsa}
> That's just "The greeter", isn't it? Is there anything better for 
> "receptionist"?

Maybe {le rinsyseljibri}, the one whose job it is to greet, if you want
to be more precise.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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