[lojban-beginners] Re: A question about se

["Newton, Philip" <Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de>]

Chris Capel wrote:
> On 8/26/05, Newton, Philip <Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de> wrote:
> > la .ZAkyris. cu cusku di'e
> > > Or is se one of those cmavo that can
> > > be placed anywhere in a bridi,
> > 
> > No. It has to precde the brivla it modifies -- but it modifies a 
> > brivla, not necessarily a selbri.
> 
> Well, it modifies a "selbri", but not necessarily the whole 
> selbri of the bridi--it only modifies the next 
> brivla-or-equivalent following it.

OK, I guess. But I was using "selbri" in its sense of "se bridi" -- that is,
the predicate relationship underlying a whole bridi, not one of its
components (even if that component is, itself, subdivided into
subcomponents).

> But you can use it to 
> modify a whole complex selbri, like this:
> 
> le nu mi klama cu se ke drani tcika la daucac.

Ah OK, with {ke}, yeah. I can see that. That's still not modifying the
entire selbri, but I'll grant that it modifies more than just one brivla.

mu'o mi'e .filip.