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[lojban-beginners] Re: gendered and gender-neutral language



Christopher Zervic wrote:

On 9/22/05, *Sunnan* <sunnan@handgranat.org <mailto:sunnan@handgranat.org>> wrote:

    I was kind of
dissappointed upon finding mamta and patfu in the language,

To me this just sounds ridiculous.

I'm not surprised.
(However, I do prefer having mamta and patfu to the esperanto-style patro and patrino, which is imho horrible.)


However, if we are talking about a full-on test of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis using Lojban as a test language, then sure why not have one word for parent and calculate how it impacts the mini-jbopre.

My main usage of lojban is in fiction/art. I also plan to use it for mathematics if the mekso system turns out to be sufficient.

    as well as
    finding several slightly sexist or at least gender-specific
    examples in
_Lojban for beginners_.

Such as what?

There are plenty. The section named _gismu as sumti_ has, for example, several examples where a human is defined/described by her gender alone.


    For example, I look forward to writing non-sexist, sexually explicit
    literature, something which is possible using lojban but few other
    languages.


Sounds like a challenge. Are you "disappointed" that there are two separate Lojban words for genitals?

pinji, plibu, cinse and other words are available. The gender-specific words are useful for medical professionals.

I'm aware that this strive for extreme "political correctness" might seem off-putting to some. If so, look at it as an art experiment. There's no offense intended.