[lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban Reader

[HeliodoR <exitconsole@gmail.com>]

Just a few corrections:

 

> .i ti cukta fi la .alex lo jbobau cilre

 

Pointing at non-phisical existences is illegal; at least xorxe taught me that...

In addition a period should go after Your name, too, so: {la .alex.}.

 

> fi'o valsi le valsi pe lu velcli befi la lojban. bei loi co'a cilre li'u

 

A {la'e}, "referent of..." must be attached, hence: {la'e lu velcli befi la lojban. ... li'u}.

 

> remo'o
 

Is this a new sentence? If so, that ought to be indicated with an {.i} besides every

tabulation or newline characters or anything.

 

As to all the further sentences generally, I'd advise You to use {lo} quasi everywhere

instead of {le}.

 

> .i la maris. klama le vecnu fu la pikis.
 

How could she do that? :O

 

> .i le vecnu cu vecnu loi kabri

 

This one must be a misunderstanding that caused quite a few problems to me, too.

{loi} means - according to me - that there is a mass of objects or some uncountable

thing the name of which (the *whole*) is, let's say, broda. If I'm talking about loi broda,

I'm thinking about something the exact parts (lo broda) of which are not important,

not worth counting - which is not the case when we're talking about selling distinct

items.

I always think of {lai loglandias. kontrapozitivos.} to clarify the situation for myself.

(Notice there are no {la loglandias. kontrapozitivos.}.)

 

Thus the correct version most likely is

{.i le vecnu cu vecnu lo kabri},

or more simply

{.i le vecnu cu kabri vecnu}.

 

Though I may be wrong.

 

> .i fi le rokci cu kabri

 

Wow. I'd never have thought about that. Nice solution.

(I would have written sthing like {.i le kabri cu rokci} or such.

Oh, it's the next sentence exactly. :))

 

> .i la djonas. fanva fi la lojban la gliban le cukta

 

The result is not the book which he tranlates, it is another.

.i fanva le cukta fu lo cukta

 

> .i la djonas. tivni lo jungo

 

Now IMO that is where a {loi} can be useful.

.i dy. tivni loi jungo

Please correct me if I'm saying nonsense.

 

mi'e darves.