[lojban-beginners] Re: Attitudinal use (was: Subjunctive in Lojban)

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 2/17/06, Jonathan Derque <jolapache@free.fr> wrote:
> Le 17 Feb, à 10:47, Jorge Llambías ecrivit :
> >    .ei la djan klama le zarci
> >    John should go to the market.
>
>  Could we use attitudinals that way ?
>  I thought attitudinals reflect the *speaker* feelings, not x1's feelings.

Attitudinals are not necessarily about feelings, but yes, they
are always expressions of the speaker.

>        IMHO, in {.ei la djan klama le zarci}, {.ei} doesn't pertain to john, not the
> speaker. Am I completly wrong ?

It is the speaker who expresses that it ought to be the case
that {la djan klama le zarci}, yes. John may not even be
aware of it, and it does not pertain to John any more than
to le zarci. It is an expression about the bridi as a whole.

mu'o mi'e xorxes