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[lojban-beginners] Re: Now what?



Robin said (elsewhere) was hoping someone would translate -- here's my go.

"Cmevla" is defined as "cmene valsi" or "name word". One cmevla is always one word, but one
cmene may be more than one word.

On Apr 13, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

zo cmevla cu se smuni lu cmene valsi li'u .i va'i pa cmevla ro roi
valsi pa mei .i ku'i pa cmene cu vasru su'o valsi

-Robin

On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 07:54:24PM -0400, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote:
I understand....I think...trouble is, neither "Lojban for
Beginners" nor the Reference Grammar even mention cmevla.  In what
way are cmevla different from cmene?

- Andrew

--- Nathaniel Krause <nathanielkrause@yahoo.com>
wrote:

ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote: What on
earth is Dot Side?  I can't find the proposal
anywhere - only some commentaries about it.

- Andrew

The so-called Dot Side opposes the orthodox position
on the rules for forming and creating a cmevla.
According to the orthodox view, no cmevla may
contain the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai", unless
they are immediately preceded by a consonant. Thus,
Germany cannot be called {la doitclant.} and the
Dalai Lama cannot be called {la dalailaman.}
However, the advantage of the orthodox position is
that there is no need to place a pause (dot) in
between the words {doi}, {la}, or {lai} and a
cmevla. For instance, in the phrase {.i la lojban.
mo}, there is no pause inbetween {la} and {lojban.}

The so-called Dot Side proposes the opposite rule,
that the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai" should be
allowed in cmevla, but every cmevla must always be
preceded by a dot. Thus one could say {.i la
.lojban. mo} or {.i la .doitclant. mo} or {.i la
.dalailaman. mo}.

Please note that, when a cmevla follows any word
besides {doi}, {la}, or {lai}, both sides agree that
there must be a pause before the cmevla. For
instance, everyone agrees that {be'e .andruv.} and
{mi'e .djan.} are correct.

mu'o mi'e .sen.


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