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[lojban-beginners] Re: la melpelkre .e le ci cribe
On 6/1/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:
> On 01/06/07, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How can
> > they tell that someone has been actually _sleeping_ on their bed?
doi xorxes .i do na cribe
bu'u la .internet. no da djuno lo du'u mi .y su ko tolmorji zo'o
.i do djuno fi la'ede'u ma .i zo'o cumki fa le nu loi cribe cu djuno fi
loi nu da pu sipna sedi'o de
ku'i le cribe va'o lo nu jinvi la'e di'u cu srera .i le nixli ba'e na sipna
bu'u le jdari ja ranti ckana
> There doesn't seem to be any specific locus on the bed
> that is relevant here.
Which is why I used sedi'o, not di'o. The bed is the specific locus.
The tedi'o is the room.
I've always been very uncomfortable with {di'o} and now I think I see
why. {diklo} is a relationship between locations: a precise locus x1 on
something else x2, some other location. There is no place for anything
that is located or happens in either of those locations. That's why I
can't relate the event of sleeping to anything tagged by {diklo}.
{se di'o le ckana} tells me that the bed is a location with some specific
(unmentioned) locus and within some range (the room, you say), and
what does that have to do with someone sleeping?
{bu'u} (= fi'o se zvati) expresses the {zvati} relationship: {lo nu sipna
cu zvati le ckana}.
mu'o mi'e xorxes