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Re: [lojban-beginners] Proposed change to smart.fm items



2010/5/7 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm talking about {zo'e jimpe fi zo'e}, not {zo'e jimpe
> zo'e zo'e}.

But those two have identical meanings. "zo'e" is the equivalent to
leaving a place empty.

I don't agree. When I see a definition like  "x1 understands/comprehends fact/truth x2 (du'u) about subject x3; x1 understands (fi) x3, I take it to mean that
{zo'e jimpe zo'e zo'e} means  "x1 understands/comprehends fact/truth x2 (du'u) about subject x3"
{zo'e jimpe fi zo'e} means " "x1 understands (fi) x3"

I don't limit this to just {jimpe}:
facki "x1 discovers/finds out x2 (du'u) about subject/object x3; x1 finds (fi) x3 (object)"
{zo'e facki zo'e zo'e} "x1 discovers/finds out x2 (du'u) about subject/object x3"
{zo'e facki fi zo'e} "x1 finds (fi) x3 (object)"

frati "x1 reacts/responds/answers with action x2 to stimulus x3 under conditions x4; x1 is responsive"
{zo'e frati zo'e zo'e zo'e} "x1 reacts/responds/answers with action x2 to stimulus x3 under conditions x4"
{zo'e frati} "x1 is responsive"

fulta "x1 (passive) floats on/in fluid (gas/liquid) x2; x1 is buoyant"
{zo'e fulta zo'e} "x1 (passive) floats on/in fluid (gas/liquid) x2"
{zo'e fulta} "x1 is buoyant"


mu'o mi'e xorxes

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