Re: [lojban-beginners] lo do ckiku ma zvati

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:42:24AM -0600, Alan Post wrote:
> On IRC, I was told (I think by xorxes) that it is standard
> procedure to teach newbies all the elidable terminators and only
> after practicing with them begin to practice without them.
> 
> It didn't quite fit my own intuition, but I was trying to adopt
> the best practice we've discovered for teaching Lojban.  I'm happy
> to discuss this.  It may turn out there isn't concensus on which
> is best.

On the one hand, I utterly disagree that teching even the
*existance* of terminators to a beginner is a good idea.  90+% of
all conversational WAYK-type sentences can be said with exactly on
{cu} and no terminators, and so they should be taught that way.

On the other hand, I haven't done any active teaching of Lojban to
anyone from scratch in 8+ years, except at jbonunsla.

At jbonunsla, where we usually have a live class for 1-3 students,
My recollection is that confuse the hell out of people, and we avoid
them like the plague.  OTOH, it never occured to use to teach them
as required and then drop them later.

There are other people who have done much more teaching more
recently than I have, though; if they've got students that are
conversationally fluent and have learned that way, I'd love to hear
about it.

-Robin

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