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[lojban] Re: lujvo cmene etc



Jorge LlambÃas wrote:
>>Does {mo} after {la} mean anything?
> 
> It's a question, yes. {la mo zilyfaglo'u} asks you to fill in the
> missing brivla.

But {la mozilys. faglor.} doesn't, because it ends in a consonant?

>>Is it written anywhere?
>>It seems to be very difficult to find anything in the texts ...
> 
> If you can read a formal grammar, this is the best way to make sure of
> what's grammatical or not:
> <http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/grammar/lojban.peg.txt>

Hm, I don't think it would be a wise choice for me to read it manually... :)

>>Is there any sense to put a {noi} before {selstuzi} also? Because though
>>"localted in Moscow, Russia" is not the point of the title, but it's
>>just mentioned.
> 
> You could do that, then you would have a sumti instead of a full sentence.
> Both are grammatical. But the {be cu} bit is ungrammatical.

Aha, "Delete Software Limited, Moscow, Russia" is not a sentence, too.

>>>>How to say "a song parody" (roughly the same tune, and derivative or
>>>>completely different lyrics)?
>>>Maybe {selsanga xamfu'i/casfu'i}.
>>They are mostly or sometimes funny, yes, and often intended so, but
>>that's not what "song parody" means. "Funny songs" {du} "parodies" is
>>illogical.
> 
> What about {casfu'i}?

fu'i?
"Something a little ridiculous"?
They are not always ridiculous, they are just songs whose authors didn't
bother to write a melody for. ;)

> A lujvo does not need to consist of a full definition. You take the most
> salient parts of the concept and with those you can form a new word
> that can mean more than just the sum of its parts.

Hm...
{tergafselsa'a} (modified song) - x1 is a song parody by x2 TTTO x3 by
x4, the parody is about x5
{gafselsa'a} (modifier song) - x1 parodies song x2 by x3 about x4 with
result called x5
correct?

{fikselsa'a} (fiction song) - x1 is a filk song ... maybe like selsa'a + 
subject of the song
{fiksa'a} - x1 is a filk-singer / sings filk ...like selsa'a.




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