Re: [lojban] Re: my opinion on why lojban isn't specifically well suited for human-computer interaction.1

[John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>]

--- Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Monday 25 September 2006 02:52, M@ wrote:
> 
> > Additionally, codes can be abstracted, languages cannot (or at least none
> > that are coming to mind can).  I could speak lojban in Morse Code, or
> > Spanish in Morse Code (if I could speak Spanish that is).  I can't imagine
> > pig latin would work very well applied to Spanish, but conceptually there
> > is no barrier with the idea.
> 
> Yensopé equé esué osiblepé ;)

There is apparently (as you would expect) at least one Spanish child's word code - jerigonza.  The
main site for that has disappeared but the clip in wikipedia says that (at least one version of)
it consists doubling vowels with a p between; pepensopo quepe epes poposipiblepe
> > Do you mean to suggest that Latin grammar is the same as Spanish grammar (I
> > don't know one way or the other)?
> 
> Latin grammar is quite different from Spanish grammar; for instance, case 
> endings have disappeared and prepositions are more common. Spanish grammar is 
> more similar to grammar of other main Romance languages (the outliers are 
> Sardinian and Romanian, and I don't know much about them) than to Latin 
> grammar, but there are differences among them (usted and vous take different 
> verb forms, hubiera doesn't seem to correspond to anything in French, 
> preterit desuet in French, etc.).
> 
> I have heard a Portuguese and a Hispanic talking as if each one's language was 
> a code for the other. The grammar is close enough that they can do this, but 
> the vocabulary contains numerous differences:
> porto		spano		lojbo
> janela		ventana		canko
> tatu		armadillo	cakmabru
> faca		cuchillo	dakfu
> alfândega	aduana		koirgretro
> fita		cinta		dasri
> cão		perro		gerku
> 
> Pierre
> 
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