Re: [lojban] Re: Gismu space?

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 27 October 2006 02:56, Ryan Keppel wrote:
> Well, I was thinking more along the lines of perhaps "integral" in
> mathematics. Most of us who learn lojban are hardcore nerds. Thus, the
> gismu should start reflecting that. I don't care about lions, or Christians
> (although it's quite fun when they meet). I care about integrals, photons,
> computers, derivatives, complex numbers, robots, transhumanism, and that
> sort of thing. I don't want cultural neutrality. I want to elevate the
> lojban/transhumanist culture way above all others. Eventually, they'll be
> like the ants that they are, bleating in their gibberish languages.

"definite integral" is {bi'irsumji}. There's also a type-3 fu'ivla.
"photon" is {guska'u}.
"computer" is {skami}. This is a gismu and is used in several lujvo: 
{samfonxa}, {samki'o}, {samru'e}....
I don't know if someone's come up with a word for "derivative", but it's 
fairly easy to invent a lujvo.
For "complex number" have been proposed {lujna'u} and {relcimdyna'u}. 
{voncimdyna'u} is "quaternion".
A robot is a kind of minji. Whether all robots should be covered by one Lojban 
word, I don't know.
I don't know what transhumanism is without looking it up. Generally "-ism" is 
{-si'o}, but some English "-ism" words are too vague to translate with one 
Lojban word.

> Realistically speaking, I think the gismu space is more open than the cmavo
> space. As more transhumanists and nerds join in, hopefully we'll change the
> gismu. In the past, I had wanted to change cmavo to better reflect
> hexadecimal. I wasn't approaching it from the right angle then. The
> structure of Lojban is an amazing thing--my donations and strong gratitude
> reflect that.

Cmavo space is actually infinite (one could make a cmavo {bu'a'ei'o'au}); 
gismu space is finite. Both lists are baselined, and any suggested change to 
either of them is called experimental.

phma