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Re: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination



Timothy Hobbs wrote:
Stop! You are creating a rift in the community far more dangerous
than some harmless experimentation.

No. I am trying to ensure that there is no rift. The argument over LOkadin's posting went on too long, bannered by the subject line indicating "discrimination", for me to consider it harmless.

> You useless old fuddy duddy!

%^)

You do not help the lojban community with your arguing.

I didn't start the argument.  I am trying to make sure it ends.

You say you branched loglan to create lojban,

No. Lojban IS Loglan. I re-engineered the language after JCB asserted copyright authority and ownership of the language, and forbade language supporters from doing anything independently of his organization to promote the language, or to use the language freely.

> if this is true than you should not discourage change at all.

Wrong. The fundamental concept of Lojban engineering was to not change anything in JCB's language that wasn't necessary to change. Then, I adopted the "baseline" concept from systems development, so that when the design was complete, that change by "reformers" would not be allowed.

> Now, stop being a disrespectful old prune

I plead guilty.

that thinks that it is fine to discurage one of the few of us that
regularly writes more than 3 sentences of lojban.

I am not discouraging anyone from writing any number of sentences of Lojban. I would strongly prefer that they write those sentences in a form which others in the community can and will read.

Just because your
inflexible hardly of human quality mind cannot adapt to the legle
variation of the language does not make someone who is attempting to
stay within those bounds non-conformist.

Of course it does. Non-conformity can be perfectly legal, and still unwelcome.

> And even if they are, THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY, THIS IS THE INTERNET!

Of course it is. I'm not censoring anyone; nor have I called for censorship. LOkadin can continue what he is doing, and I won't try to stop him. I haven't even said that his usage makes his text "not valid Lojban"; I am not motivated to try to figure out whether it is. (I heartily approve of Robin's willingness to make the effort to read LOkadin and offer suggestions).

But not trying to censor him does not mean I don't have the right to criticize. After all, "THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY, THIS IS THE INTERNET" applies to us disrespectful old prunes too.

lojbab