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Re: [lojban] Re: "la" rule



Robin Lee Powell wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:30:47PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:

I will assume you wish to have a rule that does not require
recognizing the presence of the 'forbidden' combinations in the
word.  To do this, one would have to have all cmene  marked with
one of the  name introducers like doi or la (I presume 'doi' is
normally used  like 'hoi' in Loglan to precede a name used as a
vocative.  If this  be true, then the parser can strip off the
introducer, and the  remainder up to the consonant and pause is a
name (I presume that a  person without a speech defect would not
pause in the middle of a  name).  The LaPlace problem was in
sequential names. For sequential  names we used the Loglan word
for hyphen 'ci', which added 'ci' to  the list of name markers.


You know, I think that actually works.  Or, at least, I can't think
of any problems off the top of my head.

Call the Lojban name hyphen xi'i; laSTIvn.xi'iLAItl. has no
ambiguity I can see.

What about someone surnamed "xi'iLAItl."

While writing this, I realized  there may be a problem in the
generalization. The Loglan rules were intended for the situation
where the names were recognized as having the problem. The
stripping  off of the name marker would only occur where another
name marker was  at the beginning of a name, so the remainder
could be recognized as a name.


I didn't follow that at all; can you give an example or something?


Whether this would work in general would depend on whether the
grammar allowed for a predicate to follow a name in an argument
e.g.  le la Name predicate cu ....  and the predicate happened to
have a  name marker as the first syllable e.g. Loglan cibra =
bridge,  I will have to consider the general case in more detail.

That example causes no problem because "bra" can't be a cmene.

a Lojban example, using Robby the robot, using Loglan's "ci" as the hyphen. (A stranger cmavo like xi'i might be harder to find realistic counterexamples for).

la djan. cikre la rabis.

la djan. ci krelarabis.

lojbab