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Re: [lojban] Re: nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 08:54:15PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> Well, once I figured out what was going on, I'd say it all went fairly
> smoothly. The problem was figuring out, well, what was going on. I was
> especially confused when I asked how to play, and you replied "This is a
> rock." I was like, "WTF?" I didn't really think any of it was boring,
> although obviously .xorxes. disagreed. :) Obviously, the best part was
> when he threw the rock and the stick into the lake and told us to shut up
> about them, although that was also kind of the worst part since that was
> also the end of the game. :)
>
Part of the problem here was that I was not fluent enough to
translate enough of the rules of play into Lojban, and Hedwig
required that I speak in Lojban. I had to think about it awhile
to be able to articulate a set of bootstrapping rules.
One thing I've learned from this play session is that playing
over e-mail is helped when each of the players understands and
approaches it as an improv performance. There are a set of
six or so core techniques for improv, but the topical one here
is "Yes, And." You say yes to whatever happens, and build the
story by adding elements to those already in play.
When we play next we'll just have to figure out what to do about
our stick and rock being in the lake, and what do to about xorxes.
We had just gotten to the part of the game that permits the greatest
level of improvisation, as demonstrated by xorxes seizing that
moment.
> I notice you used a lot of attitudinal indicators. Do you think
> this should become part of the baseline game? Are you typical
> or a-typical in this regard?
>
> Well, one of the very, very few things I know about the game is that it
> has techniques, like the rock, stick,
> I'm-sure-there's-a-third-one-we-never-got-to one in the game we did. I
> think it would be a great idea to have an attitudinal technique. So, if
> that's what you mean by baseline, then yes.
>
> I honestly don't know if my use of attitudinals is typical or not. The
> reason I used them is because I feel that it is a shame not to use such
> wonderful words, and also, using them helps me to learn them. I actually
> remember that .u'u is "Sorry!" and .au is "Eureeka!", due pretty much
> entirely to the fact that I've been using them.
>
> So, I wish it was typical?
>
Good enough for me! That is what I mean.
> I'd like this material to develop into the best Lojban training
> material it can be, so please give feedback with that in mind--
> please don't be shy.
> -Alan
>
> I think most of the people in both the Lojban and Lojban-Beginners groups
> would describe me as many things, but I doubt shy is one of them. :)
>
Wonderful. I think it is worth pointing out that while you and I
played the majority of this game, it is a game that permits a large
number of players. My first exposure to the game involved 20 of us
playing together. I hope to involve more of you, with varying
levels of fluency, as the game progresses.
-Alan
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.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
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