Re: lu'o

[jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU]

> I don't know the difference you are seeing between
> "lu'o mu zumri" and "(piro) lei mu zumri"

I understand {lu'o mu zumri} to be "some mass of five corns" while
{lei mu zumri} is "the mass of five corns that I have in mind".

Much the same difference as between {lo zumri} and {le zumri}.

> I see them as being the same regardless of what "mu zumri" means, except
> for the added flavor of veridicality.

The main difference to me is specificity (or determinacy, whichever
is the right word). Veridicality is just a cosequence of that.

> In any event, defining "mu zumri"="lu'o mu zumri" is recursive and
> doesn't help if we can't agree what the latter means.

The definition would be {lu'o mu lo zumri} if that's what we wanted.

Jorge