[lojban] Re: Test sentences

[Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>]

And:
> "Cicero is Tully" is sensitive to intensional contexts (e.g.
> as x2 of "believe"). Lojban can capture opaque & transparent
> readings when brivla are involved, but not when cmene are
> involved. Cmene are like {le} gadri, and are insensitive
> to intensional contexts.

Right, because la and le are always the name/description
according to the speaker.

So {la kikeron du la tulius} means "the one I call 'Cicero'
is also the one I call 'Tully'", but {la djan na krici
lo du'u la kikeron du la tulius} means "Of the one
I call both 'Cicero' and 'Tully', John does not believe
it is self-identical", which is not what we want to say.

Perhaps we can say: {la djan na krici lo du'u lu'e zo kikeron
du lu'e zo tulius}, "John does not believe that the referent
of 'Cicero' is also the referent of 'Tully'", assuming the
brivla behind {lu'e} is within the scope of John's belief.

mu'o mi'e xorxes



		
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