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[lojban] Re: lujvo cmene etc



On 5/23/05, Aleksej R. Serdyukov <deletesoftware@yandex.ru> wrote:
> Jorge Llambías wrote:
> >>Does {mo} after {la} mean anything?
> >
> > It's a question, yes. {la mo zilyfaglo'u} asks you to fill in the
> > missing brivla.
> 
> But {la mozilys. faglor.} doesn't, because it ends in a consonant?

Right, it consists of three words. You can string together any
number of consonant-ending words.
  
 
> >>Is there any sense to put a {noi} before {selstuzi} also? Because though
> >>"localted in Moscow, Russia" is not the point of the title, but it's
> >>just mentioned.
> >
> > You could do that, then you would have a sumti instead of a full sentence.
> > Both are grammatical. But the {be cu} bit is ungrammatical.
> 
> Aha, "Delete Software Limited, Moscow, Russia" is not a sentence, too.

Right.


> >>>Maybe {selsanga xamfu'i/casfu'i}.
> >>They are mostly or sometimes funny, yes, and often intended so, but
> >>that's not what "song parody" means. "Funny songs" {du} "parodies" is
> >>illogical.
> >
> > What about {casfu'i}?
> 
> fu'i?
> "Something a little ridiculous"?

casfu'i = ckasu + fukpi "mock-copy"

parody: "A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic 
style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule."
So I think "funny-copy" or "mocking-copy" would work.

> Hm...
> {tergafselsa'a} (modified song) - x1 is a song parody by x2 TTTO x3 by
> x4, the parody is about x5
> {gafselsa'a} (modifier song) - x1 parodies song x2 by x3 about x4 with
> result called x5
> correct?

Could be, but I think the humorous effect is important
to the concept of parody.

Also {xamfu'i} and {casfu'i} apply more generally to all parodies,
not only to songs. All three words can be used, of course, 
depending on context. There is no reason for having a single
Lojban word match one English word.

mu'o mi'e xorxes