[lojban] Re: Usage of lo and le

["Maxim Katcharov" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On 5/11/06, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/11/06, Maxim Katcharov <maxim.katcharov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/11/06, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Then use {lo ro cribe}, that refers to all bears.
> > >
> > By your definition, this means "all" in context (or "all in context",
> > I really can't tell the difference).
>
> The former. Context is unavoidable. The bears don't have to be present
> in any sense in the context. Examples:
>
> "Being the largest of all bears the polar bear can measure up to nine
> feet long."
>  lo bercribe no'u lo brarai be lo ro cribe cu jmagutci li su'e so lo ka clani
>
> "All bears killed by people must be accounted for under the quota"
>  bilga lo lo ro cribe poi se catra lo prenu cu se kacyvau lo selcrulai
>
> > > In most of these cases the referent of "all bears" seems to be kinds. That
> >
> > Kinds? (The only thing popping into my head is "of species x2")
>
> See the polar bear example, for instance.

You're responding to the only two comments made by me that don't focus
on my point - that is, you've skimmed over my point entirely. The
paragraph starting with "Not by your rules. Here..." outlines my
point, and I would appreciate a response to it, as I think that it
shows clearly that there is something amiss with the current usage of
{ro}.


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