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[lojban] Re: "la" rule




On 13 Nov, 2006, at 20:06, Robert McIvor wrote:

I believe I remember that 'coi' identifies the author of something. In Loglan the
canonical form would correspond to Coi La Bab, where Bab is the name.
However, a sort of usage sprung up which used the equivalent of Coi Bab,
if Bab himself was the author and Coi la Bab if one were citing a third party. The equivalent of 'coi is not a name marker in Loglan, so the 'la' would be
considered the marker to be stripped


On 13 Nov, 2006, at 19:52, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 04:45:24PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 04:41:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:30:47PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:

I will assume you wish to have a rule that does not require
recognizing the presence of the 'forbidden' combinations in
the word.  To do this, one would have to have all cmene
marked with one of the  name introducers like doi or la (I
presume 'doi' is normally used  like 'hoi' in Loglan to
precede a name used as a vocative.

Yes.

If this  be true, then the parser can strip off the
introducer, and the  remainder up to the consonant and pause
is a name (I presume that a  person without a speech defect
would not pause in the middle of a  name).  The LaPlace
problem was in sequential names. For sequential  names we used
the Loglan word for hyphen 'ci', which added 'ci' to  the list
of name markers.

You know, I think that actually works.  Or, at least, I can't
think of any problems off the top of my head.

Call the Lojban name hyphen xi'i; laSTIvn.xi'iLAItl. has no
ambiguity I can see.

However, {doilaSTIvn.} is ambiguous still.  It's not a
particularily hard ambiguity to fix (strip *all* name markers off
the front), but still.  Does Loglan allow that construct?

Replying to myself, this is a bigger problem than I thought.  Is
{coi.lanam.} == {coi la nam} or {coi lanam}?  Does Loglan have this
sort of construct?

I am not sure what is meant by 'coi' so I cannot answer this. If it were our Hoi, it would be hoi lanam.

-Robin

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