On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:32:01AM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/6/2002 7:07:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
> lojban-out@lojban.org writes, quoting pc quoting him:
> <<
> > > This is the oldest screw-up in Lojban (and Loglan before it). People who
> > > can't tell UI from "I am ... that..." bridi are suffering from the
> > original
> > > malglico and clearly have not yet earned the right to play with the
> > language.
> > > They just need to be gently asked which they really mean (Do you care
> > how I
> > > feel or do you care that ...?) and reminded how to say the one they want.
> >
> > > This is a clear case of the parse (often) not giving the intended
> > meaning.
> > > And all the bad usage in the world will not change that.
> >
> > Ok, I read the above paragraph about 4 times, and I can't make heads
> > or tails of it. Clearly it is intended to be insulting, but you
> > wrote it so poorly I have no idea what you're even complaining
> > about, which just makes it look asinine. However, I'll give you
> > the benefit of the doubt and assume you actually *are* talking about
> > *something*, however incoherently.
> >
> > Would you like to try again?
> >>
[zu'o kasta'a]
> The rest is just the standard policy for dealing with the error. Ascertain
> that it was an error, that the user really meant to say the other thing, and
> then gently (two-by- fours are OK after a few recurrences, but dynamite is
> never appropriate) remind the misuser of the distinction and how to make it.
Ok; I agree that there is a gramatical difference, but not that
there is a real semantic difference (except perhaps in which part
of the claim is more important (the fact you are happy, or whatever
the other claim is))...
--
Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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