[lojban] Re: Magic words (was: experimental cmavo in lojgloss.)

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:
>>> Like, I assume {lo'ai zo sa'ai sa'ai le'ai} would be okay.
>>
>> That would replace a "zo" with a "sa'ai" ("zo" and  the second "sa'ai"
>> are just empty words, not parsed with their function).
>
> Oh, I thought {lo'u zo le'u le'u} was a quotation of {zo le'u}.

CLL does say something like that. The PEG grammar goes with a
different (simpler) rule. The official grammar didn't actually deal
with magic words, so in CLL it was just a description of how they
would have to be dealt with, but not actually incorporated in the
formal grammar. So I may not be giving you what is strictly the
"currently official rule".

> So there is no way to quote with {lo'u} text that contains {le'u}?

In a rare occasion where that might be needed, you can say something like:

lo'u ... le'u ce'o zo le'u ce'o lo'u ... le'u

Longer, but clear enough.

>>> Is there a simple rule to follow?
>>
>> First come, first served. The first magic word is the one with the magic.
>
> Interesting.  That is definitely a simple rule. :-)
>
> Does that mean that {zo broda zei brode} is a lujvo (rather than a
> quoted lujvo)?

Exactly.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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