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[lojban] Re: Gender neutrality?



Yes, but in conversation people often like to say, "Did you see that girl?" instead of "Did you see that person?". Things like that. My request is that lujvo for gender identities should replace words meaning biological sex in casual conversation since it will come up. Can that happen? Does anybody else see this as something that should happen? 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 16:19, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
It hasn't come up.  Unless I need to talk about whether someone
actually has a penis or vagina, I use {remna}.  Or, you know, their
name.  :)  If it comes up in conversation for you, I suggest you
invent some lujvo.

-Robin

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 04:12:16PM -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> No, i mean words that instead of meaning that someone is a boy, it
> means that they are mentally a boy. Everyone is used to using
> words that describe what people are biologically, but we should be
> talking about gender identity unless we really do want to talk
> specifically about their biological sex. So, the terms that mean
> identify as male, female, genderqueer, etc, should always be
> preferred when talking about humans (or even bots/androids that
> are supposed to have a gender since they don't have a biological
> sex).
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:00, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > de'i li 20 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Danny Piccirillo .fy. cusku zoi
> > skamyxatra.
> > > If there are terms for boy, man, girl, and woman, there are surely terms
> > for
> > > one who identifies as masculine or feminine, or androgynous, genderqueer,
> > etc
> > > and those are the terms i think should be preferred in common
> > conversation
> > > when talking about someone who has a gender identity (all humans).
> > .skamyxatra
> >
> > If you mean words that are suitable for individuals regardless of their
> > gender
> > identities, yes, there are words for those.  "Human" is "{remna}," and
> > "person"
> > (not necessarily human) is "{prenu}."  "Child" is "{verba}," "offspring" is
> > "{panzi}," "parent" is "{rirni}," "sibling" is "{tunba}," "uncle/aunt" is
> > "{famti}," et cetera.
> >
> > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.
> >
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> >
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