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[lojban] Re: Philosophical differences.
Stela Selckiku wrote:
It's true of course that the gismu don't necessarily provide a very
*good* set of mnenomics. There could be a lot more choices than -tcu
and -dji, but instead what we have is a lot of words for household
objects and body parts and wtf-ever. What I propose broadly to
respond to this (utterly unfixable) overall situation is what I have
called "cimjvo", cilmo zei lujvo, moist lujvo, lujvo which are wet
with meaning, or to put it more concretely: lujvo with an elided
"-pev-". (The lujvo "cimjvo" is of course self-describing, for
instance.)
Bravo on the creation. Have you defined it in jbovlaste?
or to put it more concretely: lujvo with an elided "-pev-".
"pev" is only needed where it is pragmatically necessary to distinguish
between a non-metaphorical and a metaphorical interpretation of a word.
If there was a non-metaphorical concept written as cimjvo, then
pevycimjvo would be needed to express your concept.
You can habitually add pev to all metaphorical composed lujvo to be safe
(to make sure that there is room for a more literal lujvo if someone
needs it). But, if you've seriously put in the thought as to whether
there is a plausible non-metaphorical meaning, and are satisfied, omit
the pev. Especially if it is a word that is finding common usage
(under a Zipf's law argument, many things can be eliminated).
I think it would be a good idea to use the flavored words we have for
various specific needs, like taske and xagji, as additional bases for
families of words about wanting and needing. We don't need a full
family of lujvo for different kinds of actual non-metaphorical thirst!
In theory that sounds cool, but I am having trouble even thinking of
more than one type of thirst.
taske was added because we simply couldn't be sure that it was
culturally neutral to conflate it with xagji.
So, as I've just demonstrated, either -taske
can be metaphorical,
By all means!
lojbab
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