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Re: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please.

If you have a list of just gismu you could separate them into different word documents by first letter.  Do a word count for each letter group and compare it with a word count of just that letter gismu from a complete list (like the one here: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Index:Lojban/gismu ).  Then narrow down which gismu is missing alphabetically.  (Theirs probably a much faster way to do this but I don't know it)

From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please.
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:02:17 -0700


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First, I want to thank Dag and Robin for their help in getting the audio.
 
Second, I went through the espeak.zip and took out all the cmavo, and discovered that it's missing 6 gismu. I have no idea which 6, but 6 are missing.
 
Because of this, and because it'd be nice to have all the aduio files in the same .zip, I extracted the complete list of the items for the Smart.fm lesson into a text file.
 
The file is located here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/smart.fm+entry+list
 
The direct link to the file is: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=682&page=smart.fm%20entry%20list&download=y
 
If Dag or someone could do this one more time, with that list, we won't have to worry about which 6 gismu are missing.
 
Thank you in advance.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Dag Odenhall <dag.odenhall@gmail.com> wrote:
How is "vary-ers" more natural than "variable",

It's not. It's merely "varier" spelled wrong with a '-' in it. However, it does, IMO, have the advantage of less confusingly defining {lo cenba} than 'variable', and both are less 'natural' than 'something varying'.
 
and how is "cenba1;"
more difficult to remove than "any/some...(s)"? Easier, if anything.

Because all the jbofi'e phrases have 'any/some' and '(s)', whereas only one of the oblique keywords has "cenba1". To remove 'any/some' and '(s)' is two instances of find/replace with '', to remove '[gismu][#];' is at least one per gismu, plus one each for '1;', '2;', '3;', '4;', and '5;'.
 
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> No need. I've already got the latter for all the sumti.
>
> What's needed is to take that and make them into phrases as per my
> previous example two of my posts ago.
>
> On 3/4/10, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:50:02AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>>>    Not really, and the list is also a lot more difficult to edit:
>>>
>>>    From oblique keywords:
>>>    bakri1;chalk
>>>    bakri2;chalk source
>>>    bakri3;chalk form
>>>    cenba1;variable; vary
>>>    cenba2;varying property
>>>    cenba3;variance; varying amount
>>>    cenba4;variance conditions
>>>    dukse1;excess
>>>    dukse2;in excess
>>>    dukse3;excess standard
>>>    From jbofi'e, with 'any/some', '(' and ')' auto-removed:
>>>    chalks
>>>    chalk sources
>>>    chalk forms
>>
>> That's about 2 seconds of scripting for me, to turn the former into
>> the latter, so if you want that let me know.
>>
>> -Robin
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