Re: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:11:37AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Michael Turniansky
> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  ISTM that "communicate" might be the best of all, because "say"
> > often does connote bacru, as Robin says...errr..communicates.
> 
> But "communicate" doesn't normally have words as the object. You
> say words, you communicate ideas.
> 
> "Say" is completely normal for written communication ("what does
> it say here?", "what did he say in his letter?"), and while I
> don't have much experience with sign language, if I see two people
> signing I would not hesitate to say "I don't understand what they
> are saying". It seems to me that "say" does not require bacru at
> all.

It doesn't require it, but it absence of context, to me, it most
certainly implies it.  Very strongly.  So, "talk" and "say", as
memorization keywords, confuse the hell out of me.

-Robin

-- 
They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other  than  the default  outcome?"  See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/