I vote evolution (AKA survival of the fittest).
Put up both methods, and let the users decide which they want to use to learn.
We've already got everything needed for the lesson as I envisioned it, and I assume that you've uploaded most, if not all of the lesson items for it already.
I also assume that you could, with little effort, add the "place n of ...." bit to the lessons.
So, why not have both?
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
smart.fm actually *does* use whole phrases, like "an expresser" or
"a sayer" for "lo cusku".
What I'm wondering is if it shouldn't instead say "a sayer (place 1
of: x1 says x2 for audience x3 via expressive medium x4)". That is,
have both the short form *and* the place structure.
The big advantage there is that instead of saying "an audience of
something said", we can say "an audience (place 3 of: x1 says x2 for
audience x3 via expressive medium x4), which semems far more natural
to me. Oddly. :)
I've just tested with "lo te cusku", by the way, and even when stuff
doesn't fit on a card proprerly, it looks fine in iKnow and Drill.
Drill can't handle stuff much longer than "an audience for
_expression_ (place 3 of: x1 says x2 for audience x3 via expressive
medium x4)", but it can handle that, and a few more words extra I
expect, so it can probably handle this format in general. You can
try http://smart.fm/goals/270376 to see what it looks like (test 5
is that phrase).
-Robin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 04:28:13PM -0500, Robert Slaughter wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 18:11 -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
>
> You and I already know well what "cusku" means, so whatever keyword
> you choose won't affect you or me. If your argument is that English
> speakers in general get confused about the meaning of "say", to the
> extent that they can't readily distinguish it from "talk" without
> context, well, maybe a single keyword is just not the answer.
>
> Looking over the discussion today, maybe this point made in passing by
> xorxes should be reviewed. I've always though that the single keyword
> idea, as used in logflash (for example), was a weak match, but a short
> key-phrase might work better for capturing the underlying meaning of the
> lojban words -- nor just gismu, but the more troublesome cmavo as well.
>
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