On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Minimiscience
<minimiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 29 pi'e 03 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Jonathan Jones .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.
> I move that we vote to correct minli as per goal #1 (internal consistency) of
> Robin's proposal.
.skamyxatra
I don't think you have the authority to overthrow the current authority.
Never said I did. However, assuming Robin's proposal is accepted, based on my reading of it, all jbopre is considered a member of the BPFK. As such, I am not trying to overthrow the current authority, but merely doing my part to get the job done.
In any case, you didn't cast your vote on the issue. Are you abstaining?
> And, continuing in the spirit of the proposal, does anyone else have an
> issue they feel needs to be addressed?
The keyword of "{jegvo}" should be "Abrahamic," not "Jehovist";
I used "Judeo-Christian" for that gismu on the Smart.fm lesson.
"{ta'u}" doesn't seem to serve any purpose;
It does to me, but not a very useful one. What do you think should be done about it?
"{ti'o}" will likely never be specified and, even if it is, really won't be different enough from "{sei}" to warrant a separate {cmavo};
So I take it you'd like to call a vote to remove ti'o as a cmavo?
there are too many cultural {gismu};
I admit there are many cultural gismu, but there are also many cultures. If anything, I think there aren't enough, as not all cultures have a gismu. Regardless, which cultural gismu do you think are excessive, why do you think this, and what would you like done about it?
the measurement words can be cut down to half by making them system-independent and adding a {gismu} for "metric"; and I seem to have misplaced my full list of complaints.
That's not a bad idea. It makes logical sense. Let's take a look at the involved measurement gismu.
kramu x1 is x2 non-metric area units in standard x3 with subunits x4
(no metric gismu? - metric area is (C)m^2)
minli x1 is x2 non-metric long distance units with subunits x3 in standard x4
gutci x1 is x2 non-metric short distance units in standard x3 with subunits x4
mitre x1 is x2 meters in direction x3 by standard x4
dekpu x1 is x2 non-metric volume units in standard x3 with subunits x4
litce x1 is x2 liters by standard x3
bunda x1 is x2 non-metric weight units in standard x3 with subunits x4
(no metric gismu - metric weight is Newtons)
(no non-metric gismu - non-metric mass is (?))
grake x1 is x2 grams by standard x3
Only 3 of the non-metric gismu overlap with the metric gismu. I say leave it alone, for reason of RP#4, and because of the 10^n gismu such as kilto. A kilometer in Lojban is a {kilto mitre} or {ki'omitre} (my preffered form), or {ki'otre}. Assuming {mitre} was kept and, say {metri} was created to mean "x1 is metric measurement", then kilometer would become {kilto metri mitre}, {ki'ometrmitre}, or {ki'ometrtre}. And since only metric uses powers of ten, it just makes metric- likely the most used system- more ungainly, and the- likely much less used- non-metric systems wouldn't get any benefit as compromise.