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Re: [lojban] la .alis.

Actually, no.  What Michael said was:

"Orthography is the thing the spell-checker looks at."

and

"The spell-checker ... may or may not ignore capitalization depending on how it is set."

Thus, if the spellchecker is set to ignore capitalization, it is not looking at capitalization, which means that capitalization is no long part of the orthography.

I prefer to define my words with dictionaries instead of spellcheckers; here is what the OED says for orthography:

1. a. Correct or proper spelling; spelling according to accepted usage or convention. Also personified.
    b. A system of spelling or notation.
    c. Spelling as an art or practice; the branch of knowledge which deals with letters and their combination to represent sounds and words; the study of spelling.

I intend meaning 1(b) here, which is current.  Typography is:

 1. The art or practice of printing.
    b. A printing establishment, a press. Obs.
2. The action or process of printing; esp. the setting and arrangement of types and printing from them; typographical execution; hence, the arrangement and appearance of printed matter.

I assume y'all are intending the second here, which includes a set of metaphorical extensions to get to the meaning.  Nonetheless, typography is an issue of page layout and font selection, even by that definition, and NOT an issue of punctuation.

Chris


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 14:30, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
No, just what the orthographical rules are.

From: Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 4:23:05 PM

Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis.

This would seem to imply that changing the settings in one's spellchecker would change what counts as orthography...

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 14:11, Michael Everson <michael.everson@gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 Mar 2010, at 21:24, Christopher Doty wrote:

> Yes, I realize they are not (exactly) the same thing, but "orthography," as commonly understood, is not devoid of typographic conventions

Orthography is the thing the spell-checker looks at.

The spell-checker ignores punctuation (typically, it ignores quotation marks regularly but will distinguish "can't" and "cant") and may or may not ignore capitalization depending on how it is set.

Michael

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