RE: [lojban] ka + makau (was: ce'u (was: vliju'a

[Invent Yourself <xod@sixgirls.org>]

On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote:

>
> la and cusku di'e
>
> > >        le nu xokau prenu cu zvati cu spaji mi
> >
> >But I'm a bit uncomfortable with that "nu xokau".
>
> The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that {kau}
> is totally independent of the abstraction it is embedded in.
> Xod was right after all: "the answer" is just the sumti. But
> we were all wrong about the question. It is not the whole bridi
> containing {ma}. The question is just {ma}. So {makau} simply
> stands for the relevant answer to {ma}, whatever the context
> is, be it du'u, ka, or an appropriate attitudinal.



"X goes to the store"
"I know that X went to the store"
"There are X people in this room"

In each case if the statement is true, X is a value that makes it true. X
is an answer to the question "What is X?", which in each case would
probably be phrased more directly (ex. "Who goes to the store?"). But
really, X is just a variable. One that we can surely denote with "ko'a"
if we lift the weak expectation that ko'a should have been defined by a
previous bridi.

ko'a is freer than da since it does not assert existence. But that
assertion may or may not really be a problem.

"Contextual appropriateness" means that one would expect X to represent
some set of people first two questions, and a number in the second.

Finally, let's consider:

   ko'a ko'e frica le ka ce'u klama makau
   X and Y differ in where they go

What about the routes? Are they different? Are they the same?







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