Re: [lojban] So what do we say for Swedish? (was "Summary: Cultural fu'ivla")

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, I kind of distracted from this, but here is what I had come up with.
>  Putting the language families first, and having alternate forms for
> different clusters, does work a lot better.
> Also, this is a bit weird, since six of these eight languages are
> Niger-Congo, so also isn't quite a random sample,

Apparently Niger-Congo is the family with the most members, so that's
not too surprizing.

So, you want to create a prefix or series of prefixes for each of (how
many? more than a hundred?) families?
Is it really worth going to all that trouble? What's the advantage,
over just using bang-, ban-, baur-?

> but it does illustrate, as
> do the examples from .xorxes., the idea of different initial elements.  So,
> Niger-Congo might be {nirk} when the ISO is V initial, {nirko} when it is VV
> initial, etc....

If you do that, how do you distinguish code "aab" from code "oab"?
"nirko'abu" could be either. (At least if they both happen to be in
the same family.) And why would you want to change the vowel?

> aaa -> nirka'a'a' (cf. banga'a'a)
> aab -> nirko'abu (cf. banga'abu)
> aba -> nirkaba or ... (cf. bangabu'a)

I could do "bangaba" too. The reason I prefer "bangabu'a"is that this
way every language name has four syllables. But if giving three
syllables to languages with VCV codes does not violate neutrality,
that can be done.

> abb -> ... bangabubu
> baa -> ... banbu'a'a
> bab -> babnicV or nirbabV (cf. banbu'abu)

"nirbabV" works with a nir- family code, but it wouldn't work with
other family codes.

> bba -> ... banbubu'a
> bbb -> tagbVbVbV (cf. banbububu)

tag- won't work for codes that begin with voiceless consonants.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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