Re: [lojban] The proposed 'goals' of lojban

[Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>]

I hope no one misunderstands, to think that Lojban does not already
meet the goals set down in the essay. It does meet them. Of course
nothing is perfect-- nor can it ever be-- but Lojban leaves other
languages in the dust, since they do not even make the attempt.

The reason we need the goals formalized is to guide in clarifying rare
words and edge-cases. Given a set of choices on a specific issue,
these goals act like weights on a scale to influence the decision.

With that in mind, these goals will not cause the BPFK to dither
endlessly, trying to perfectly meet the goals; rather, the goals will
let the BPFK quickly resolve questions for which there are no answers,
the minimum necessary to settle on a release of Lojban version 5.

Goal #1 currently reads: "Lojban should be as logical (internally
consistent, semantically complete, ??? I don't really know how to
define this well) as possible".

My suggestion for goal #1 is as follows: "Minimize rule exceptions and
maximize how predictably the components combine." What did I miss?

-Eppcott


On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@mac.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2010, at 20:56, 白松 Oren wrote:
>
>> Mission: Full expressive freedom: Any meaning expressed in a natural
>> language can be expressed in Lojban, and at any desired level of
>> ambiguity or precision.
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>
> We are not interested in supporting ambiguity. We are interested in
> supporting vagueness.
>
> (Ambiguity is discrete; vagueness is continuous. Ambiguity means the
> listener has to choose among distinct and possibly very dissimilar meanings;
> vagueness means the listener gets a broad but contiguous cluster. Ambiguity,
> if possible in the language, has to be fixed by rewriting; vagueness can be
> fixed by adding elements.)
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