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Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community.
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:09:44PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >I'm proposing setting a group of experienced Lojbanists with the
> >task of making these sorts of decisions; if you're worried, join
> >up and help.
>
> Your proposal doesn't say that. It says:
>
> >The BPFK should be open to anyone who is seriously working on
> >learning the language
I don't see a particularily significant difference in practice, and
neither of these are my *actual* formal proposal.
> That includes newbies who want to learn the language, but haven't
> actually gotten the experience.
Yep. And if such people outnumber the oldbies on the BPFK (which is
staggeringly unlikely, since the BPFK is going to be boring as hell
most of the time), then things might get a bit weird. I'm not
actually worried about it, though.
> And it could include people whose motivation for learning the
> language is rather heavily oriented towards the "unlike other
> languages" goal.
Sure could. Are they not part of the community?
> >As far as I'm aware, no-one is proposing the sorts of things
> >you're worried about.
>
> Shall Lojban become officially hexadecimal, anyone? %^(
>
> guaspi exists and was invented by someone who qualified for the
> byfy under your proposal at the time.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest; that's only one person. The
BPFK is currently stacked with people with massive amounts of Lojban
experience; it is up to them where it goes from here.
I further note that almost none of the current BPFK members have
done any actual *work*. If the only people willing to get anything
done are newbs, then newbs will define the language, and you (and
all the other people on the BPFK who have done nothing) will have
only yourselves to blame.
In practice, though, I'm really not worried about that sort of issue
at all. The BPFK is full of real Lojban users who really don't want
to have their current knowledge screwed over, and I have no
intention of making it very easy to pass things in the BPFK.
-Robin
--
They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
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