Re: [lojban] {le} in xorlo

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

oh.. My mistake.  I thought that {re lo ci bakni} is talking about "2 of the 3 bakni".  You're saying it's the other way around?  {ci lo re bakni} = "2 of the 3 cows"?

My mistake, I should have read your first reply to my question more carefully.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

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From: And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com

> taking some subset, those that satisfy broda.

I can't get my head round the notion of multiple referents. To my way of thinking, the referent is the group; if one derives from that the predicate "x is a member of the group referred to", then certainly the poi/noi distinction makes sense. Hence to me, KOhA poi/noi is comparable to "li mu (ku) poi/noi" (in which perhaps more clearly the poi/noi contrast would seem to be vacuous).

Welcome to the club, of sorts.  But do not despair; you can have your cake and xorxes his without more than verbal befuddlement.  The logic of multiple reference and quantification is exactly the same as the logic of L-sets (mereology, the part-whole relationship: Lesniewski, Goodman, Leonard, Quine), so saying 'some brodas' or 'a bunch of brodas' works exactly the same way (pace Ockham).





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