Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 11:45:58 Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Brockman <dbrockman@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > What I meant was just that I consider {to'e broda} to be more
> > or less a completely new predicate (for any {broda}).
>
> You mean like:
>
> cirko: x1 loses x2 at x3
> to'e cirko: x1 finds x2 at x3
>
> canci: x1 vanishes from x2
> to'e canci: x1 appears at x2
>
> If someone thinks of to'e as meaning un-, this doesn't work very well,
> because In English un- doesn't just mean opposite, it means more like
> undo, so in order to "un-lose"something, it first has to be lost, in
> order for something to "un-vanish" it first has to have vanished. But
> "to'e" is just opposite, not undoing, so the opposite of losing is
> finding and the opposite of vanishing is appearing, and there is no
> requirement that the thing found had to be lost or the thing that
> appears had to have disappeared.
>
> (The odd thing about these two words in particular is that the
> "negative" one is the basic root and the "positive" one has to be
> formed with "to'e", but that's how it is.)

¿Y porqué no se dice "vanece y desvanece"? .iji'a lo to'e jgena cu lunbe zo'o

ni'o ma to'e mlatu

mu'omi'e .pier.
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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