Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Saturday 24 April 2010 11:45:58 Jorge Llambías wrote:
>>
>> cirko: x1 loses x2 at x3
>> to'e cirko: x1 finds x2 at x3
>>
>> canci: x1 vanishes from x2
>> to'e canci: x1 appears at x2

Also with the same theme:

cliva: x1 leaves x2 via x3
to'e cliva: x1 arrives at x2 via x3

claxu: x1 lacks x2
to'e claxu: x1 has x2

("to'e claxu" is not to be confused with the much more specialized
"ponse": "x1 owns x2")

In all four cases the base word is the "absence" one and the
"presence" word is the derived one, which is backwards from what I
would expect. At least there is a little method to the madness. A
fifth candidate could be "kunti"/"to'e kunti", but we do have "culno"
so we don't really need "to'e kunti".

> ¿Y porqué no se dice "vanece y desvanece"?

For the same reason you don't say "perse" and "disperse". :)

> .iji'a lo to'e jgena cu lunbe zo'o

.i pe'i lo to'e lunbe cu dasni .i oi mi na jimpe lo du'u ma kau te
ckini lo lunbe lo jgena

> ni'o ma to'e mlatu

.i la'a lo danlu poi cmoni zo uaim

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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