Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun

[And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>]

Jorge Llambías, On 07/05/2010 17:34:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > I'm not sure how to say "persuade"; there's a translation in
> > jbovlaste, but it's for "persuade that something is true", not "persuade to
> > do something".
>
> Similarly:
>
> djuno: know that something is true
> ????: know how to do something
>
> facki: find out that something is true
> ????: find out how to do something
>
> cilre: learn that something is true
> ????: learn to do something
>
> ctuca: teach that something is true
> ????: teach to do something
>
> morji: remember that something is true
> ????: remember to do something
>
> jdice: decide that something is true
> ????: decide to do something

"persuade" is "cause to decide", where "decide" means "come to believe" or "come to intend". (IIRC, there is no good gismu for "intend".)

> Solve one and maybe you will solve them all.

These mostly involve not an alternating pair but an alternating triple:

A: know that something is true
B: know how to do something
C: know to do something

A: find out that something is true
B: find out how to do something
C: -----

A: learn that something is true
B: learn (how) to do something
C: learn to do something

A: teach that something is true
B: teach (how) to do something
C: teach to do something

A: remember that something is true
B: remember how to do something
C: remember to do something

A: decide that something is true
B: decide how to do something
C: decide to do something

--And.

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