2010/5/8 Jorge Llambías
<jjllambias@gmail.com>
The "how to" version of the knowledge class can be obtained with "lo
du'u ta'i makau ...", although it is not really clear that an
intellectual knowledge about how something is done is equivalent
knowing how to do something in a more experiential sense (does a child
who knows how to walk, know what the method for walking is, in a djuno
sense?)
xu lo verba cu djuno lo du'u ri cadzu ta'i ma kau
"Does a child know how they walk?"
"Does a child know how to walk?"
Are those two really the same questions?
It slightly feels to be the difference between {djuno} and {jijnu}. In {lo verba cu jijnu lo du'u/zu'o ri cadzu ta'i ma kau}, the child may not be aware of the factuality or the logical makeup of the x2 but can act on the subconscious neurological flows activated by that information of the x2 stored somewhere in the brain.
The intention class includes: "intend", jdice, morji, "persuade"...
This class is even more complicated, since we don't even have a good
gismu for the basic concept "x1 intends to do x2". "ckixlu" is a nice
lujvo for "persuade", but it doesn't give us a general solution.
"decide to do" can be "come to intend to do", "remember to do" can be
"bring back the intention to do", "persuade to do" can be "make
someone intend to do", and so on, but we don't have "x1 intends to do
x2" to begin with. The best two candidates are "zukte" and "platu",
but "zukte" relegates the intention to x3 and has an x2 that doesn't
really belong, and "platu" has a rather hard to figure out place
structure.
Then why not create a new place structure out of these two?
zu'epla
p1=z1 intends p2=z3
Anyone wants to run the gismu making algorithm to see what comes out
for "intend"?
From
dasuan 0.36 (zho: 打算 | dǎsuan )
irada 0.21 (hin: इरादा | irādā )
intend 0.16 (eng: intend)
intension 0.11 (spa: intención )
namerevatsa 0.09 (rus: намереваться | namerevát’sja )
kasada 0.07 (ara: قصد | qaSada )
(The Hindi and the Spanish are nouns because I didn't know and couldn't find its verb form. The Russian is de-palatalized both for simplicity and also in consideration of non-palatalizing slavic speakers with a word of the same etymology.)
scoreGismu.pl gives
drasa 0.434
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