Re: [lojban] Re: Named multiples

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, is the proposal that ".randomcmevlastring." is just a selbri with
> a meaning "x1 is called 'randomcmevlastring'" ? Cos if so, that's
> actually a good idea.

If you mean this:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji

then no, the proposal is just syntactic, it says nothing about the
meaning of any word.

I do think that "x1 is called '......'" would be the most natural
meaning for most cmevla though.

> From how you were explaining it before, I
> thought you were proposing to say, that ".spagetis." should be a
> selbri with a meaning "x1 is spaghetti", which is a horrible idea.

Why is it a horrible idea? What are the meanings of the stage-three
and stage-four fu'ivla "cidjrspageti" and "spageti"?

> I
> think somebody had already mentioned it, but it would make a name like
> "Little John" or "Big Stu" easier to translate, and we could ascribe
> qualities of people to things in tanru.

Right.

> So, I'm sorry if my previous post came off as an emotional appeal.

If you think something is a horrible idea, you could give a hint as to
why you think it's a horrible idea.

> If your proposal is to make .cmevlastrings. mean x1 is
> called .cmevlastrings., then I like it.
>
> However, that doesn't really solve the initial problem, from what I
> can see. Isn't "la .bu,ik." still the company, and not the brand of
> car? How would one, under this system, refer to a plate of spaghetti,
> or a specific make of vehicle, using this new system versus the
> current system?

As I said, I would use "spageti", not ".spagetis." for "spaghetti",
but if I was forced to use ".spagetis." then:

   lo va .spagetis. cu lenku
   "Those spaghetti are cold."

   lo va karce cu .buik.
   "Those cars are Buicks."

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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