Re: [lojban] The place structure of {selma'o}

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  But my point is that the word "brivla" and "cmene" (well, really
> cemvla?) ALREADY mean "A word in the word class of "BRIVLA" or
> "CMEVLA"

Right, those are two specific word classes, like A, BAI, GOhI, CU, etc.

BRIVLA and CMENE are special in that they are at the same time
morphological word classes and syntactic word classes, while the rest
are only syntactic word classes because they are all included in the
same morphological class "cmavo".

> But if you really wanted to figure out a general way to say
> "word class", such as in "zo broda cu cmima  ma poi  klesi lo'i lojbo
> valsi", well, what's wrong with the more general "vlalei"?

"vlalei" is fine, but it's more general than "selma'o", it could be
any kind of word class, not just a syntactic class. The words that
start with "b" for example form a word class, but not a syntactic
class. The selma'o are interesting because all the members of each
selma'o have the same syntax, so having a word to talk about A, BAI,
CAhA, ..., ZOhU, BRIVLA and CMENE is useful, while having a word for
all of those except BRIVLA and CMENE is rather pointless.

We could make an effort and use "vlalei" instead of "selma'o" for that
concept, but so far the word that has been generally used is
"selma'o".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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