Re: [lojban] beyond good and evil

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

Good call xorxes.  I didn't think of {bancu}; nor the order of ze'o issue.... nor the jo'u instead of .e thing.  All good tips.

Also, nice catch komfo.  It's another bad habit of mine that I think of the relationship itself instead of the x1 when I use lo (e.g. I think of "speed" as {lo sutra} when really {lo sutra} is "the fast one" or {lo melbi} as being "beauty" instead of "the beautiful one", etc...).

In the end I think I like {bancu lo kamvrude jo'u lo kampalci} best.

Thanks for the help guys.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:

2010/7/7 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> The closest thing that I could come up with was {ze'o co'e lo vrude .e lo
> palci}.  How should lojban handle vagueness of this kind?  Anybody have any
> suggestions/critiques?

     bancu lo vrude jo'u lo palci

If you must use "re'o" then:

     co'e ze'o lo vrude jo'u lo palci

because "beyond good and evil" is where whatever co'e is happens. Your
version says that something about good and evil happens beyond some
unspecified point.

I'd use jo'u rather than .e because, as I understand it, it means
beyond the dichotomy of good and evil, not being beyond good, and also
being beyond evil.

The definitions imply that the x1 of vrude/palci is a person (or any being to whom a moral sense can be attributed). So maybe {bancu lo si'o vrude kei jo'u si'o palci}?

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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