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Re: [lojban] Lojban Kids Show



On 8 July 2010 07:04, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
So day one
will be basic sumti-selbri relationships, COI, ko, etc. Day two would
introduce LE as the exchange student learns the names of things around
the house.

I think the most basic / simplest forms in Lojban are one-word observative and one-word attitudinal:

 jbogu'e (Lojbanistan!) -- what something is

 coi (Hello!) -- what you feel

An observative (jbogu'e) and its sumti-fication (lo jbogu'e) are basically the same in that they both tells what something is with one selbri, but differ in the syntactical position/level where their meaning is rendered. Also, consider:

 lo jbogu'e cu jbogu'e -- LE SELBRI represents the SELBRI's x1

When you introduce a LE sumti, you are introducing the notion of place structure at the same time. So I think it would be more effective for students to be systematically presented with these two items of knowledge (place structure & sumti-fication) on the same day (day two, if these are too much for the first day).

On day three, students could benefit from learning how to make the most of the brivlas and attitudinals introduced on day one, with only a few additional basic cmavo:

 na jbogu'e (Not Lojbanistan!) -- what something is not

 vi jbogu'e (Here Lojbanistan!) -- what & how something is

 se jbogu'e (Lojbanist!) -- what something is, with respect to the argument base (x1)

 coi nai (Bye!) -- what you feel, with respect to the scalar base

-- as well as with combinations of these:

 vi na se jbogu'e (Here not Lojbanist!)

And then might come a need to make expressions clearer by specifying the arguments. This would be when kids could start practicing full-fledged but still simple bridis as well as acquiring basic pro-sumtis:

 ti jbogu'e mi (This, Lojbanistan, we --> This is our Lojbanistan.)

 mi na se jbogu'e (I, not Lojbanist. --> I'm not a Lojbanist.)

It's also important that they at this point start to see differences, if any, between Lojban and their native tongue. For example, English likes "argument + be + argument" to say what something is, while Lojban mostly can say the same thing with just a pair of "argument + predicate", e.g. "ti jbogu'e" instead of "ti du lo jbogu'e".

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